1 00:00:04,789 --> 00:00:02,310 today on somewhere in the skies we 2 00:00:07,190 --> 00:00:04,799 welcome tim barnes comedian and creator 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:07,200 of the comedy central animated series 4 00:00:21,349 --> 00:00:18,470 [Music] 5 00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:21,359 this is somewhere in the skies with ryan 6 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:23,510 sprague 7 00:00:44,869 --> 00:00:42,950 hey guys welcome to another episode of 8 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:44,879 somewhere in the skies and we're going 9 00:00:49,190 --> 00:00:47,600 to be taking a bit of a departure today 10 00:00:50,869 --> 00:00:49,200 on the show these are the episodes i 11 00:00:53,350 --> 00:00:50,879 love to do where we get to kind of 12 00:00:55,830 --> 00:00:53,360 stretch our muscles and talk to people 13 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:55,840 in all walks of life about ufos about 14 00:01:01,430 --> 00:00:58,800 the possibility of extraterrestrial life 15 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:01,440 or even the the future of space 16 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:04,159 exploration and going to places we've 17 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:06,720 never been before and um for those of 18 00:01:12,469 --> 00:01:09,680 you who don't know i'm when i'm not a 19 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:12,479 ufologist a self-proclaimed term that 20 00:01:17,190 --> 00:01:14,960 we've we've coined here in the ufo world 21 00:01:19,510 --> 00:01:17,200 uh i'm a playwright and a screenwriter 22 00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:19,520 and i'm in that world of show business 23 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:21,680 and i absolutely love it and you meet so 24 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:23,439 many interesting people 25 00:01:28,070 --> 00:01:25,680 along the way and you make connections 26 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:28,080 you never thought you were you would and 27 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:30,240 uh that's kind of what happened with our 28 00:01:35,270 --> 00:01:32,640 guest today um many of you know andrew 29 00:01:37,590 --> 00:01:35,280 sanford who has been on the podcast uh 30 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:37,600 numerous times at this point talking all 31 00:01:42,149 --> 00:01:40,320 about ufo themed movies and and stuff 32 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:42,159 like that and he actually put me in 33 00:01:45,429 --> 00:01:44,159 touch with the comedian who we're going 34 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:45,439 to be talking to 35 00:01:49,030 --> 00:01:47,520 today and i'm super excited to have him 36 00:01:51,190 --> 00:01:49,040 on we're going to talk about a new 37 00:01:54,310 --> 00:01:51,200 animated series that he has over at 38 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:54,320 comedy central that just popped up and 39 00:01:59,429 --> 00:01:57,439 is um is is making the rounds right now 40 00:02:01,990 --> 00:01:59,439 so i'm super excited to talk to him so 41 00:02:05,030 --> 00:02:02,000 let's not waste any more time his 42 00:02:07,510 --> 00:02:05,040 cartoon or his animated series is called 43 00:02:09,910 --> 00:02:07,520 maurice on mars and joining us today is 44 00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:09,920 the creator and that is tim 45 00:02:14,790 --> 00:02:12,560 barnes welcome to somewhere in the skies 46 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:14,800 yes thank you so much for having me on 47 00:02:19,670 --> 00:02:17,520 and i'm so like your life uh as a 48 00:02:21,510 --> 00:02:19,680 ufologist is so fascinating i first of 49 00:02:24,390 --> 00:02:21,520 all have to say i'm not used to hearing 50 00:02:25,670 --> 00:02:24,400 the term ufologist and i love it uh but 51 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:25,680 you are 52 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:29,920 science fiction shows and movies a 53 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:34,480 passionate ufo um uh uh someone with ufo 54 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:36,400 interest someone who wants to um 55 00:02:41,110 --> 00:02:38,800 discover what's happening outside of our 56 00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:41,120 planet who who seeks new life like they 57 00:02:44,949 --> 00:02:43,519 say in star trek and who i imagine you 58 00:02:48,070 --> 00:02:44,959 have a lot of people in your life who 59 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:48,080 don't believe a single word you say and 60 00:02:50,630 --> 00:02:49,360 so that's what makes you a great 61 00:02:52,470 --> 00:02:50,640 protagonist 62 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:52,480 like you're the guy like it's like i'm 63 00:02:56,229 --> 00:02:55,040 talking to the guy from all the sci-fi 64 00:02:58,550 --> 00:02:56,239 movies 65 00:03:01,190 --> 00:02:58,560 well i really appreciate that and you 66 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:01,200 know um full transparency i am wearing 67 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:04,080 an x-file shirt so that could not be 68 00:03:09,350 --> 00:03:06,800 more appropriate than today but yeah 69 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:09,360 let's let's start with i guess how you 70 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:11,680 and i first got connected we both live 71 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:13,920 here in new york city i'm in queens uh 72 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:15,599 you're in an undisclosed location 73 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:17,680 because i don't want people doxing you 74 00:03:20,949 --> 00:03:18,560 but 75 00:03:23,589 --> 00:03:20,959 yeah how do you know of course of course 76 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:23,599 let's get the seven degrees of um 77 00:03:26,949 --> 00:03:25,680 separation between you and i if you 78 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:26,959 don't mind 79 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:29,519 uh yeah so our our mutual friend andrew 80 00:03:36,309 --> 00:03:33,280 sanford connected us i met uh andrew at 81 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:36,319 a at a show that a mutual friend of ours 82 00:03:41,509 --> 00:03:38,560 uh had it was a one-man show about star 83 00:03:44,229 --> 00:03:41,519 wars that david lawson did and it was um 84 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:44,239 amazing it was about his life growing up 85 00:03:47,830 --> 00:03:46,000 with it was called the prequels and it's 86 00:03:49,910 --> 00:03:47,840 about uh growing up 87 00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:49,920 uh with the prequel movies coming out 88 00:03:53,910 --> 00:03:51,599 and how that effect how that affected 89 00:03:56,390 --> 00:03:53,920 his life and uh andrew was nice enough 90 00:03:59,110 --> 00:03:56,400 to ask me to open for that show and uh 91 00:04:01,589 --> 00:03:59,120 andrew was also at that show and uh we 92 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:01,599 stayed in touch ever since actually i i 93 00:04:05,509 --> 00:04:03,200 interviewed the two of them in a podcast 94 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:05,519 that i co-host with uh two other comedy 95 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:08,080 writers uh called yubnub that we kind of 96 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:10,720 dive into uh the the all of the 97 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:13,760 connective tissue of how i know andrew 98 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:15,920 and how i know david uh which now leads 99 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:18,320 me to you isn't it amazing how life 100 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:21,440 works that way yeah it is man again like 101 00:04:26,790 --> 00:04:24,240 i can't tell you the weird connections i 102 00:04:28,950 --> 00:04:26,800 made through uh this podcast alone and 103 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:28,960 that has to do with other comedians as 104 00:04:34,230 --> 00:04:31,840 well we've had people like rhys darby 105 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:34,240 kumao nanjiani um 106 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:36,800 uh brian husky on the show all because 107 00:04:40,469 --> 00:04:38,479 of their connections through like 108 00:04:42,310 --> 00:04:40,479 something they love which is the x-files 109 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:42,320 and some of them are even i think all of 110 00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:44,080 them were actually on the show at some 111 00:04:49,749 --> 00:04:47,040 point which is crazy so i'm waiting i'll 112 00:04:51,909 --> 00:04:49,759 wait and then for that season 13 of the 113 00:04:53,430 --> 00:04:51,919 x-files maybe they'll give me a call i 114 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:53,440 don't know i don't know 115 00:04:59,590 --> 00:04:56,639 yeah it is what it is um well well the 116 00:05:01,830 --> 00:04:59,600 real reason we're here is um i 117 00:05:03,909 --> 00:05:01,840 when i started looking at your work i 118 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:03,919 saw this new animated series that you 119 00:05:07,909 --> 00:05:05,840 came out with over at comedy central 120 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:07,919 which is maurice on mars and i'm gonna 121 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:10,960 read quickly the sort of quick synopsis 122 00:05:14,469 --> 00:05:12,960 of this maurice on mars follows the 123 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:14,479 struggles of maurice robinson a 124 00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:16,880 20-something artist who snuck onto a 125 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:19,600 utopian martian colony only to realize 126 00:05:25,350 --> 00:05:22,240 it's repeating the same old earth 127 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:25,360 problems which does not surprise me one 128 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:27,280 bit um 129 00:05:31,590 --> 00:05:29,840 it's brilliant man um and i want to get 130 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:31,600 into sort of how it came to be and 131 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:32,880 everything but 132 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:34,880 uh let's start with who you are let's 133 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:36,080 let the audience get to know you a 134 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:37,280 little bit if that's cool how did you 135 00:05:40,710 --> 00:05:40,000 first get involved with comedy um do you 136 00:05:44,870 --> 00:05:40,720 do 137 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:44,880 what's your whole origin story i guess 138 00:05:50,310 --> 00:05:47,680 yeah yeah i mean my origin story is that 139 00:05:52,710 --> 00:05:50,320 uh i grew up in uh south central l.a and 140 00:05:53,830 --> 00:05:52,720 i wasn't allowed to go outside as a kid 141 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:53,840 really like i was allowed to go around 142 00:05:59,189 --> 00:05:56,240 the block and it's uh it's not that i 143 00:06:01,350 --> 00:05:59,199 wanted to either like i really loved tv 144 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:01,360 i loved books i loved creating my own 145 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:04,000 universes i love movies um and i love 146 00:06:09,029 --> 00:06:06,960 science fiction in particular uh and so 147 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:09,039 it's a it's a swirl of things my first 148 00:06:11,909 --> 00:06:10,880 true goal in life 149 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:11,919 was to 150 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:13,360 invent flubber 151 00:06:17,029 --> 00:06:14,960 because when the 152 00:06:18,870 --> 00:06:17,039 robin williams flubber movie was about 153 00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:18,880 to come out you know how you would get 154 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:21,680 those scholastic uh book pamphlets i got 155 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:24,000 myself the novelization of the robin 156 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:26,800 williams version of flubber i read that 157 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:28,160 i went to go see the movie i was 158 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:30,000 dedicated and i was like i want to be a 159 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:33,039 mad scientist i want to invent flubber 160 00:06:37,670 --> 00:06:35,440 but i was so bad at math that i knew 161 00:06:39,350 --> 00:06:37,680 that that was impossible and so then i 162 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:39,360 my brain was like oh well clearly the 163 00:06:43,590 --> 00:06:40,800 thing that wants me to be a mad 164 00:06:45,990 --> 00:06:43,600 scientist is that these science fiction 165 00:06:48,150 --> 00:06:46,000 movies uh keep capturing my imagination 166 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:48,160 whether it be flubber whether it be star 167 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:50,479 wars uh and so i dove into really 168 00:06:55,029 --> 00:06:52,000 wanting to be a filmmaker i wanted to 169 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:55,039 create the stuff that i that i love um 170 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:57,440 so then that was my my huge passion it 171 00:07:02,390 --> 00:06:59,919 still is i'd love to start uh you know 172 00:07:04,230 --> 00:07:02,400 creating movies uh i mean this cartoon 173 00:07:07,110 --> 00:07:04,240 is a good step towards that in a sense 174 00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:07,120 um so uh 175 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:09,919 went to uh santa barbara city college 176 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:11,440 for a couple years to study film because 177 00:07:15,510 --> 00:07:13,360 they had a good film program there kind 178 00:07:17,749 --> 00:07:15,520 of stopped doing college moved to uh 179 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:17,759 moved back home uh with my parents and i 180 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:20,560 was working uh at a movie theater uh and 181 00:07:24,390 --> 00:07:22,240 i had this little 182 00:07:25,749 --> 00:07:24,400 thing where it's like i wanted to uh i 183 00:07:27,749 --> 00:07:25,759 wanted to do comedy and there's some 184 00:07:29,589 --> 00:07:27,759 people that that knew that because i was 185 00:07:32,710 --> 00:07:29,599 the type of guy who would kind of repeat 186 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:32,720 the same casual conversational jokes in 187 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:34,240 any social setting just to see if they 188 00:07:37,749 --> 00:07:36,400 get the same reaction that kind of thing 189 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:37,759 and so um 190 00:07:42,230 --> 00:07:40,400 my two friends uh who had a band they 191 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:42,240 asked me to open for one of their their 192 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:45,440 bigger shows in la and uh i did and to 193 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:47,039 prep for that i started going to open 194 00:07:50,390 --> 00:07:48,960 mics where it was like i would be the 195 00:07:52,869 --> 00:07:50,400 only comedian type of thing it was like 196 00:07:55,430 --> 00:07:52,879 poetry open mics music open nights and 197 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:55,440 uh i loved that did the show it went 198 00:07:59,830 --> 00:07:58,000 pretty good and uh and then i kind of 199 00:08:01,670 --> 00:07:59,840 hatched this plan with my friend ian 200 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:01,680 abramson who i went to high school with 201 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:04,639 to to move to chicago and pursue comedy 202 00:08:09,110 --> 00:08:06,080 we uh 203 00:08:10,869 --> 00:08:09,120 you know took some classes at second 204 00:08:13,510 --> 00:08:10,879 city i started to focus a little bit 205 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:13,520 more on stand up but parallel to that i 206 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:14,960 was still doing a lot of behind the 207 00:08:18,710 --> 00:08:16,720 scenes stuff so i was like in the 208 00:08:20,710 --> 00:08:18,720 stand-up world but i was also 209 00:08:22,710 --> 00:08:20,720 being a video producer for different 210 00:08:25,110 --> 00:08:22,720 companies being a podcast producer for 211 00:08:28,309 --> 00:08:25,120 different companies and 212 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:28,319 and every you know step along the way i 213 00:08:32,949 --> 00:08:30,800 kept trying to like sort of mold those 214 00:08:34,070 --> 00:08:32,959 two resumes together right and get to a 215 00:08:35,909 --> 00:08:34,080 point where 216 00:08:37,029 --> 00:08:35,919 they my resume would start to reflect 217 00:08:39,029 --> 00:08:37,039 the things that i wanted to do which is 218 00:08:41,829 --> 00:08:39,039 essentially creating television creating 219 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:41,839 movies uh creating just like fun 220 00:08:45,590 --> 00:08:43,919 interactive stories for people to to 221 00:08:48,870 --> 00:08:45,600 want to dive into 222 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:48,880 um and you know that's how i got here i 223 00:08:53,269 --> 00:08:51,120 don't know if i can you know be cramped 224 00:08:54,949 --> 00:08:53,279 into one label that's something i have a 225 00:08:57,990 --> 00:08:54,959 little bit of uh 226 00:09:00,389 --> 00:08:58,000 struggle with personally but 227 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:00,399 i think i'm just uh you know a comedy 228 00:09:05,509 --> 00:09:03,360 comedy creator storyteller guy who does 229 00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:05,519 stand up sometimes but writes for 230 00:09:07,509 --> 00:09:06,800 television 231 00:09:09,590 --> 00:09:07,519 and 232 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:09,600 knows how to edit a podcast every now 233 00:09:14,710 --> 00:09:12,480 and then you know what i mean like 234 00:09:17,350 --> 00:09:14,720 you're hired man we'll talk off there i 235 00:09:19,829 --> 00:09:17,360 need an editor desperately 236 00:09:22,870 --> 00:09:19,839 no well and you know i i've come across 237 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:22,880 some videos i know you worked um on was 238 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:24,880 it the late show or the time like the 239 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:26,480 tonight show yeah this night show okay 240 00:09:31,190 --> 00:09:28,880 fallon yeah that was uh my first uh 241 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:31,200 official tv writing job was on the 242 00:09:34,870 --> 00:09:33,120 reboot of all that on nickelodeon and 243 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:34,880 that was a dream come true because i 244 00:09:40,389 --> 00:09:37,200 loved all that nickelodeon as a part of 245 00:09:41,990 --> 00:09:40,399 my dna it's a part of you know 246 00:09:45,110 --> 00:09:42,000 the comedy that sort of birthed my 247 00:09:47,590 --> 00:09:45,120 sensibilities was that 90s nickelodeon 248 00:09:51,269 --> 00:09:47,600 stuff like hey arnold um 249 00:09:53,509 --> 00:09:51,279 rocco's modern life all that good uh uh 250 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:53,519 um keenan and kel that kind of stuff um 251 00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:56,160 so that was fun then i uh 252 00:09:59,110 --> 00:09:57,360 wrote for the tonight show for a year 253 00:10:01,030 --> 00:09:59,120 and a half all during the pandemic a 254 00:10:03,269 --> 00:10:01,040 very twilight zone sort of situation 255 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:03,279 where i'm writing for this uh 256 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:05,600 historic institution of a late night 257 00:10:10,630 --> 00:10:08,720 program uh from my apartment 258 00:10:13,110 --> 00:10:10,640 uh 259 00:10:15,190 --> 00:10:13,120 i never met jimmy in person still 260 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:15,200 haven't never set foot in 30 rock for 261 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:17,360 the job it was just like a very 262 00:10:22,150 --> 00:10:20,240 uh surreal thing but learned a whole lot 263 00:10:23,509 --> 00:10:22,160 from that and since it was during it 264 00:10:25,190 --> 00:10:23,519 started off in jimmy's house when i 265 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:25,200 started when all the late night hosts 266 00:10:28,230 --> 00:10:26,800 were doing it in their house all the way 267 00:10:29,430 --> 00:10:28,240 to when it was in the studio with an 268 00:10:30,870 --> 00:10:29,440 audience and all that kind of thing i 269 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:30,880 feel like i wrote for five different 270 00:10:34,470 --> 00:10:32,640 shows so i gained a lot of skills from 271 00:10:37,030 --> 00:10:34,480 that um 272 00:10:39,190 --> 00:10:37,040 and then most recently i i wrote for a 273 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:39,200 nickelodeon sitcom a new one called 274 00:10:43,910 --> 00:10:41,760 warped which is about a comic book store 275 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:43,920 in a mall and the teenagers who who 276 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:47,360 worked there and that was uh very fun uh 277 00:10:50,949 --> 00:10:49,120 i wrote an episode called plagiarize 278 00:10:52,389 --> 00:10:50,959 that featured kevin smith as a special 279 00:10:54,470 --> 00:10:52,399 guest so that was really cool i got to 280 00:10:57,350 --> 00:10:54,480 meet him in person 281 00:10:59,750 --> 00:10:57,360 and uh and all the while in the summer 282 00:11:01,910 --> 00:10:59,760 of 2020 i had pitched this idea to 283 00:11:04,710 --> 00:11:01,920 comedy central for this animated project 284 00:11:06,069 --> 00:11:04,720 called maurice on mars that uh and i've 285 00:11:08,069 --> 00:11:06,079 been working on that for for two years 286 00:11:10,550 --> 00:11:08,079 and now it's finally out and i'm excited 287 00:11:12,790 --> 00:11:10,560 that people can see it uh sorry i feel 288 00:11:14,870 --> 00:11:12,800 like i'm rambling on these things no man 289 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:14,880 see this is what i like i love hearing 290 00:11:19,190 --> 00:11:17,600 like the journey of a creative and how 291 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:19,200 they got to where they are because i'm 292 00:11:24,069 --> 00:11:21,200 the same way again people know me on 293 00:11:27,190 --> 00:11:24,079 this show as a ufo person but 294 00:11:29,030 --> 00:11:27,200 we all outside of these like big hobbies 295 00:11:30,310 --> 00:11:29,040 or interests we have it's more than a 296 00:11:32,790 --> 00:11:30,320 hobby for me at this point it's 297 00:11:35,190 --> 00:11:32,800 basically a second job i'm not gonna lie 298 00:11:38,310 --> 00:11:35,200 um and i love it it's as close to being 299 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:38,320 fox mulder as i'll ever get but um 300 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:41,120 i love hearing like what inspires you to 301 00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:43,200 create things and kind of that journey 302 00:11:48,630 --> 00:11:45,680 and there's so many like tangent 303 00:11:50,790 --> 00:11:48,640 questions i want to ask but i know we we 304 00:11:52,949 --> 00:11:50,800 only have limited amounts of time but 305 00:11:55,030 --> 00:11:52,959 like i think it's great that you got to 306 00:11:57,110 --> 00:11:55,040 work with kevin smith even though you 307 00:11:59,030 --> 00:11:57,120 didn't get to step foot in 30 rock for 308 00:12:01,030 --> 00:11:59,040 the other job and at least you got to 309 00:12:03,670 --> 00:12:01,040 meet kevin smith over at nickelodeon 310 00:12:06,150 --> 00:12:03,680 which again i'm a kid of the 90s i love 311 00:12:08,389 --> 00:12:06,160 kevin smith i love nickelodeon back then 312 00:12:10,310 --> 00:12:08,399 so i think i think you won out in that 313 00:12:12,629 --> 00:12:10,320 one man i know it's like two elements of 314 00:12:14,949 --> 00:12:12,639 the 90s came together in a way that no 315 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:14,959 one would ever expect you know 316 00:12:20,150 --> 00:12:17,680 right but uh yeah he's he's really cool 317 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:20,160 i i think i i gave like absolutely zero 318 00:12:23,670 --> 00:12:22,160 impression on him 319 00:12:24,949 --> 00:12:23,680 you know what i mean 320 00:12:27,269 --> 00:12:24,959 because i never know if i should like 321 00:12:29,350 --> 00:12:27,279 fanboy out or i always try to play it 322 00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:29,360 cool and i think a little too cool but 323 00:12:33,269 --> 00:12:31,760 uh what was amazing is that he is so 324 00:12:35,430 --> 00:12:33,279 dedicated to 325 00:12:37,509 --> 00:12:35,440 um providing joy to people like the way 326 00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:37,519 that he just kept keeping the crew 327 00:12:41,910 --> 00:12:39,600 laughing throughout the day that he was 328 00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:41,920 on set it was uh it was absolutely 329 00:12:46,949 --> 00:12:43,920 phenomenal like he is he is a true 330 00:12:49,829 --> 00:12:46,959 entertainer kevin smith and absolutely 331 00:12:51,110 --> 00:12:49,839 yeah yeah a keeper he's like a keeper of 332 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:51,120 of the uh 333 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:54,880 of the flame of nerdum it feels like 334 00:12:59,350 --> 00:12:57,360 yes we're lucky to have him love him or 335 00:13:01,829 --> 00:12:59,360 hate him love his work or hate his work 336 00:13:04,629 --> 00:13:01,839 like you can just see the passion and 337 00:13:06,949 --> 00:13:04,639 like yeah he made it to that level where 338 00:13:09,350 --> 00:13:06,959 like he can pretty much do what he wants 339 00:13:11,829 --> 00:13:09,360 and he continues to do the things he 340 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:11,839 loves and uh you can tell that's in the 341 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:13,120 world of 342 00:13:17,829 --> 00:13:15,760 pop culture and comic books and it's 343 00:13:20,710 --> 00:13:17,839 amazing it's amazing to see someone like 344 00:13:23,910 --> 00:13:20,720 him and the trajectories taken and yeah 345 00:13:26,150 --> 00:13:23,920 you know i i'm i'm assuming uh you and i 346 00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:26,160 are kind of the same way like if we ever 347 00:13:30,069 --> 00:13:27,920 reach that level which would be yes 348 00:13:31,829 --> 00:13:30,079 amazing and i think you're you're well 349 00:13:33,350 --> 00:13:31,839 on your way my friend you're well on 350 00:13:35,590 --> 00:13:33,360 your way um 351 00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:35,600 that you stay true to like what you love 352 00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:37,360 and i think that's why he has such a big 353 00:13:40,790 --> 00:13:39,600 following yeah definitely he's he's like 354 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:40,800 a uh 355 00:13:44,870 --> 00:13:42,800 he is a sort of a character in the same 356 00:13:46,069 --> 00:13:44,880 way that stan lee was like he he's 357 00:13:49,509 --> 00:13:46,079 created 358 00:13:51,829 --> 00:13:49,519 an an essence that is uh beyond who who 359 00:13:53,829 --> 00:13:51,839 likely the the true kevin smith actually 360 00:13:56,230 --> 00:13:53,839 is it's almost like he's he's his own 361 00:13:58,790 --> 00:13:56,240 superhero you know yeah so yeah it makes 362 00:14:00,629 --> 00:13:58,800 me wonder who's the who's the real kevin 363 00:14:01,990 --> 00:14:00,639 smith kevin smith or kevin smith you 364 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:02,000 know what i mean 365 00:14:04,540 --> 00:14:02,800 yeah 366 00:14:06,389 --> 00:14:04,550 he's got the glasses on and he was guys 367 00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:06,399 [Laughter] 368 00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:09,920 i got you i got you well yeah i guess 369 00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:12,820 i gotta ask who's the real tim barnes 370 00:14:16,629 --> 00:14:14,160 [Laughter] 371 00:14:19,990 --> 00:14:16,639 have you ever and you i'm sure you saw 372 00:14:21,509 --> 00:14:20,000 this question coming on a ufo podcast um 373 00:14:24,629 --> 00:14:21,519 have you ever 374 00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:24,639 seen a ufo or what you think was a ufo 375 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:26,399 have you ever had a weird paranormal 376 00:14:31,189 --> 00:14:28,800 experience anything like that 377 00:14:32,470 --> 00:14:31,199 i mean it's hard to uh and i'm sure 378 00:14:34,870 --> 00:14:32,480 you've probably talked about this on the 379 00:14:37,350 --> 00:14:34,880 podcast before where like sometimes you 380 00:14:38,949 --> 00:14:37,360 have a dream that's a little spiritual 381 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:38,959 and the it feels like there's some 382 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:40,480 wiggle room in terms of like what could 383 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:42,480 be an alien what could be you know 384 00:14:45,670 --> 00:14:43,760 something that usually people think is 385 00:14:47,750 --> 00:14:45,680 sort of a metaphysical or religious 386 00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:47,760 experience i will say that when i was a 387 00:14:54,069 --> 00:14:50,800 kid i would very often and i grew up in 388 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:54,079 la so lots of airplanes close to lax you 389 00:14:58,310 --> 00:14:56,000 know that kind of thing yeah i would 390 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:58,320 always think i was seeing a ufo at night 391 00:15:02,069 --> 00:15:00,560 driving in l.a where there's nothing but 392 00:15:03,829 --> 00:15:02,079 lights on the freeway and you look up at 393 00:15:05,829 --> 00:15:03,839 the sky and you see something 394 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:05,839 and i'm sure that they were all just uh 395 00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:08,320 airplanes but it was always just like 396 00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:11,120 yeah i think i just saw a ufo i had that 397 00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:12,399 feeling 398 00:15:19,990 --> 00:15:17,839 no no i can't say that i have any 399 00:15:23,509 --> 00:15:20,000 specific uh 400 00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:23,519 visions of uh or memories of of feeling 401 00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:25,760 like i had an encounter with an alien i 402 00:15:30,629 --> 00:15:28,320 had one dream when i was a kid where it 403 00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:30,639 was like i had uh i was i wanted to walk 404 00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:32,399 downstairs in the stream to get to the 405 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:34,800 fridge and i feel like i literally saw 406 00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:38,350 satan at the bottom of the staircase 407 00:15:44,069 --> 00:15:42,000 [Laughter] 408 00:15:47,189 --> 00:15:44,079 wow he clearly did not want you getting 409 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:49,910 wow what can i ask what did it look like 410 00:15:54,629 --> 00:15:52,160 is it like a prototypical sort of satan 411 00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:54,639 or what we have going on there i i think 412 00:15:58,230 --> 00:15:56,320 it was sort of prototypical i can't 413 00:15:59,990 --> 00:15:58,240 remember exactly it was it looked a lot 414 00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:00,000 like that sort of uh you know there's 415 00:16:03,749 --> 00:16:02,079 that one character in the cantina scene 416 00:16:05,430 --> 00:16:03,759 and a new hope that has the horns and 417 00:16:06,710 --> 00:16:05,440 looks like the devils it's kind of like 418 00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:06,720 that i think 419 00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:07,600 yeah 420 00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:09,600 no thank you 421 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:11,199 yeah i think the only aliens from the 422 00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:13,600 cantina i want to see were the the fun 423 00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:16,079 the cantina band to be honest they were 424 00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:17,360 fun 425 00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:20,160 but i think la is probably the best area 426 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:22,800 to be an alien probing earth because 427 00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:24,160 it's nothing but 428 00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:25,759 you know it's constantly something in 429 00:16:30,069 --> 00:16:27,360 the sky constantly hearing airplanes 430 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:30,079 landing constantly helicopters you know 431 00:16:32,629 --> 00:16:31,040 so 432 00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:32,639 it's the best 433 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:35,360 it is i spent two years in la and i had 434 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:37,680 the you know the opportunity to go out 435 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:40,240 to like uh the mojave and stuff like 436 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:43,680 that and actually go out where there's 437 00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:45,040 i can't believe i'm saying this where 438 00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:46,959 there's stars because you and i have 439 00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:49,600 both lived in l.a and new york where the 440 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:51,600 light pollution is insane and we don't 441 00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:53,440 see a lot of there's not a lot of ufo 442 00:16:59,189 --> 00:16:55,839 reports in major cities let alone new 443 00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:59,199 york or l.a but um you go just a little 444 00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:01,680 bit outside either the hudson valley 445 00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:04,559 here in new york or um you know out to 446 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:07,199 like joshua tree out in california and 447 00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:09,520 you will see something something 448 00:17:13,829 --> 00:17:11,520 extraordinary whether it's from another 449 00:17:15,510 --> 00:17:13,839 planet or not that's yeah that's yet to 450 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:15,520 be seen but yeah whether it's because of 451 00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:18,480 the ayahuasca or that yeah yeah we 452 00:17:24,309 --> 00:17:21,120 should have prefaced that yeah yeah 453 00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:24,319 um well let's let's get to the core of 454 00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:26,480 this maurice on mars how did this 455 00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:28,720 project come to be um what kind of 456 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:31,600 inspired you to tackle the issue of uh 457 00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:34,000 colonization that's kind of the overall 458 00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:36,640 theme here yeah what if we get to mars 459 00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:39,200 what if humans finally make it and that 460 00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:42,720 is mirroring reality right now your your 461 00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:44,240 series could not come at a better time 462 00:17:47,830 --> 00:17:46,080 tim we're we're getting news which we're 463 00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:47,840 going to talk about in a little bit 464 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:50,240 about um we're get we're we're almost 465 00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:51,840 there we're there yeah we're getting 466 00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:54,400 audio from it yeah yeah mars is 467 00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:57,120 something that i think i think every uh 468 00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:58,880 you know speculative fiction writer 469 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:01,280 every science fiction writer is obsessed 470 00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:03,280 with and it feels like a symbol at this 471 00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:06,799 point of uh either a threat or an 472 00:18:09,909 --> 00:18:08,240 opportunity for peace i feel like people 473 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:09,919 have that same thing with aliens and 474 00:18:15,029 --> 00:18:12,640 ufos too it's it's either a symbol of 475 00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:15,039 like someone who's trying to attack us 476 00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:18,240 to probe us to to experiment on us or 477 00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:20,799 people who are coming seeking to help us 478 00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:24,160 um and so using mars is that symbol and 479 00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:26,080 uh i've always been a fan of ray 480 00:18:29,990 --> 00:18:28,240 bradbury who wrote a book called the 481 00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:30,000 martian chronicles which is a series of 482 00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:32,799 short stories speculating on adventures 483 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:35,120 on mars and he also did a lot of stuff 484 00:18:39,029 --> 00:18:36,960 that tackled 485 00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:39,039 social issues with science fiction as 486 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:40,880 well he has a story in the martian 487 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:43,840 chronicles about these uh these black 488 00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:45,840 people in the south who pitch together 489 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:47,840 money to build a rocket that will that 490 00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:50,720 will take them away from all of the uh 491 00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:53,440 the dangers and the horrors of america 492 00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:56,160 onto a rocket to mars and then it's it's 493 00:18:59,430 --> 00:18:58,160 all about how the the white people 494 00:19:02,630 --> 00:18:59,440 around them are 495 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:02,640 reacting to this news uh and then in 496 00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:05,120 another uh book of his uh another 497 00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:06,320 collection of short stories called the 498 00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:07,760 illustrated man there's a story called 499 00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:09,840 the other foot where the concept is that 500 00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:12,320 uh black people left earth many years 501 00:19:17,669 --> 00:19:15,520 ago 20 years ago or so uh for mars and 502 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:17,679 they've been living on a colony there 503 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:19,840 and then 20 years later all of a sudden 504 00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:22,640 there's a lone rocket uh to the planet 505 00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:25,200 from a white man telling them 506 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:26,080 okay 507 00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:28,960 we've we've we've destroyed earth world 508 00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:31,840 war three brought everything to a halt 509 00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:34,080 we're we're in extreme danger can we 510 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:34,960 please 511 00:19:38,150 --> 00:19:35,760 uh 512 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:38,160 bring some people to your to your land 513 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:40,640 here will do whatever you want so 514 00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:42,240 there's also a long history of like 515 00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:44,160 dealing with social issues i mean of 516 00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:46,080 course with science fiction science 517 00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:48,400 fiction being a sort of mirror to to 518 00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:50,400 what's going on in our actual world and 519 00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:51,679 i had been going through this thing in 520 00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:53,840 the past five years or so 521 00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:55,919 where reading all this news about about 522 00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:58,240 mars seeing that all these billionaires 523 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:01,440 are planning you know to privatize space 524 00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:04,880 to privatize to to kind of uh bring an 525 00:20:09,669 --> 00:20:07,280 element of capitalism and of our earth 526 00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:09,679 experiences to other planets into outer 527 00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:12,480 space it became uh pretty concrete in my 528 00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:15,120 mind that we are going to be on mars in 529 00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:17,600 about 20 years or so and so with that 530 00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:19,600 being a concrete fact whether that's a 531 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:21,440 little bit off or not 532 00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:23,440 my question whenever i was like a couple 533 00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:25,679 drinks in with someone at a at a bar or 534 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:27,679 something my goal to conversation 535 00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:29,200 because i was i this is what i've been 536 00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:31,679 thinking about is okay what will happen 537 00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,400 to religion what will happen to culture 538 00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:36,240 what happens when there are two human 539 00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:38,400 cultures one that's on on one planet one 540 00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:41,280 that's on another uh and how how will 541 00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:43,919 certain things translate when we know 542 00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:46,480 for a fact that we are some people are 543 00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:48,960 gonna be on another an entirely 544 00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:50,960 different planet 545 00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:53,440 and so with that circulating in my mind 546 00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:55,520 we fast forward to there's a global 547 00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:56,720 pandemic 548 00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:58,960 uh i'm working for the tonight show from 549 00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:00,159 my apartment 550 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:02,240 there's the murder of george floyd which 551 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:05,440 sparks this massive uh wave of protests 552 00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:08,320 people having a a social and racial 553 00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:10,400 reckoning in america and across the 554 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:12,799 globe and uh i'll never forget it it 555 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:16,080 feels like i believe it was the next day 556 00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:18,720 after donald trump uh 557 00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:19,840 uh 558 00:21:24,310 --> 00:21:22,000 probably tweeted or stated that he was 559 00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:24,320 gonna sick the national guard on the the 560 00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:25,919 protesters the black lives matter 561 00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:28,400 protesters that the first spacex the 562 00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:31,039 first private rocket launched into space 563 00:21:35,110 --> 00:21:33,200 and to me that was the clearest vision 564 00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:35,120 of what is actually happening you 565 00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:36,880 couldn't even write it it's just like 566 00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:39,200 the world is on fire the billionaires 567 00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:39,840 are 568 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:41,039 going to 569 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:47,280 space uh and so around that time uh uh 570 00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:49,520 comedy central was looking for specific 571 00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:50,880 people to create something in the 572 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:53,039 animated space and i kind of filtered 573 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:54,720 all that stuff that had been swirling in 574 00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:57,120 my brain into this one concept called 575 00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:59,679 maurice on mars which is a like you said 576 00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:01,039 it's about a struggling artist who works 577 00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:03,840 at a coffee shop on earth sneaks onto a 578 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:05,679 martian colony that's supposed to be a 579 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:07,919 utopia the only job he can get there is 580 00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:10,480 also at a coffee shop and the idea is 581 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,039 that everyone who to keep this a utopia 582 00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:15,600 to make this utopia work everyone gets a 583 00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:18,320 mandatory uh fact inhibitor chip that 584 00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:19,919 blocks certain earth memories about 585 00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:22,159 things like war things about all kinds 586 00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:24,640 of conflicts so that you can keep uh the 587 00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,440 peace on this uh on this colony but 588 00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:29,360 since maurice snuck on he doesn't have 589 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:31,520 that chip and so he's literally the only 590 00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,320 person who can see how this colony is 591 00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:36,480 just repeating the same problems so he's 592 00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:38,880 kind of the only hope for for actual 593 00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:41,039 change and and peace on this on this 594 00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:43,520 colony it's sort of a classic you know 595 00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:45,679 tree of knowledge uh situation or 596 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,080 question happening there um and it's 597 00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:50,480 also a parallel an element of my own 598 00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:52,159 life when i had first moved to chicago 599 00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:54,960 to pursue comedy uh i remember one of my 600 00:22:59,909 --> 00:22:57,600 first jobs was at a dunkin donuts a 601 00:23:01,590 --> 00:22:59,919 horrible job and then i always had the 602 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:01,600 night shift so i couldn't pursue my 603 00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:02,799 dreams 604 00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:05,120 of of doing comedy at night because i 605 00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:07,919 was stuck selling donuts so it's also 606 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:09,679 about that sort of tension that i think 607 00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:12,400 a lot of artists have where you're not 608 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:14,159 allowed to pursue the real thing that 609 00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:16,960 drives you because you got to pay rent 610 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,480 you know making lattes or whatever so 611 00:23:24,789 --> 00:23:22,640 there's kind of something that i i tried 612 00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:24,799 to pack into it's only going to be three 613 00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,720 episodes and they're all about five 614 00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:28,480 minutes but i tried to pack enough in 615 00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:30,000 there that hopefully gets people 616 00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:32,159 interested and if they want more maybe 617 00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:35,039 it become its own show or you know maybe 618 00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:38,159 i'll just write a series of uh of novels 619 00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:44,070 well well and that's the thing like 620 00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:46,159 the way you uh 621 00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,480 you explain you know kind of the overall 622 00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:51,279 theme of it uh it's very powerful and i 623 00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:54,080 think it's something that uh deserves a 624 00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:57,039 bigger space to tell that story and kind 625 00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:58,720 of convey the messages you're trying to 626 00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:00,960 get out there and um 627 00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,799 you know those three episodes like you 628 00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,960 said could literally turn into anything 629 00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:07,360 it could turn into a movie a cartoon a 630 00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:11,120 novel um but it is it's these big ideas 631 00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:13,279 that have been around for 632 00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:16,000 a long time but it's how you convey it 633 00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:16,960 to 634 00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:19,679 an audience and i think again like we're 635 00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:22,320 living in an age now where kind of 636 00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:25,360 i guess adult animation not not like in 637 00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:29,120 the sense of like oh xxx but like adult 638 00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,640 comedy such like family guy and 639 00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:34,799 stuff like that um they're a big thing 640 00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:37,039 now and they weren't really a thing some 641 00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:40,799 20 years ago uh and kind of tackling 642 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:42,559 those social issues you know love or 643 00:24:45,909 --> 00:24:43,840 hate something like family guy like 644 00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:45,919 there were times they did tackle some 645 00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:48,320 really big things same with south park i 646 00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:50,480 mean that south park was so in your face 647 00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:52,480 with it that it was yeah brilliant the 648 00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:54,080 way they tackled those things 649 00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:57,200 um so i love this idea of again someone 650 00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:58,559 going to mars 651 00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:01,679 and um just like you said the same 652 00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,760 issues start to arise because just 653 00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:05,520 because you're going somewhere different 654 00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:07,840 doesn't mean it's going to change i 655 00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:10,559 guess the problems you had on another 656 00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:13,039 planet it's an easy escape from the 657 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,240 problems in my in my opinion um and i 658 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,080 love the concept too that maurice is the 659 00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:20,320 only one who doesn't have these memories 660 00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:22,480 of or excuse me does have these memories 661 00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:25,440 of earth and nobody else does and you 662 00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:27,840 know we can't run away from what we've 663 00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:30,559 done in the past and and um 664 00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:32,720 you know just because we destroyed earth 665 00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:34,320 and go to another planet doesn't mean 666 00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:35,679 we're not going to do the same thing 667 00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:38,720 over and over and over again oh god it 668 00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:45,830 i also really wanted to create the world 669 00:25:51,269 --> 00:25:48,880 of mars in a way that was casual and not 670 00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:51,279 hyper sci-fi because i think sort of 671 00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:53,360 like a hyper sci-fi has already been 672 00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:57,120 done with shows like futurama and uh you 673 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:58,880 know the sort of um 674 00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:01,440 and i didn't want it to be a world where 675 00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:04,720 uh you know aliens necessarily exist i 676 00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:06,240 wanted us to 677 00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:08,400 to still have that issue on mars that we 678 00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:11,440 have on earth of not quite knowing if 679 00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:14,159 there is uh extraterrestrial life but 680 00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:17,440 there is one character who very likely 681 00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:21,120 is an alien but is in hiding and so um a 682 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,679 question is you know 683 00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:25,520 why why is she there is she there to 684 00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:29,679 study uh human life is she there to um 685 00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:32,159 to to escape something some some bigger 686 00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:33,840 thing that's happening with other aliens 687 00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:37,039 beyond mars is she from mars there are a 688 00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:39,440 lot of uh things to be explored there 689 00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,720 but i i 690 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,480 i didn't wanna i didn't want it to be in 691 00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,880 that sort of science fiction 692 00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:46,640 lane where 693 00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:48,799 uh there are just a tons of you know 694 00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:50,880 weird-looking aliens everywhere i wanted 695 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,640 to be very grounded 696 00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:54,960 uh science fiction exploration of of 697 00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:57,840 humanity basically uh and also funny and 698 00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:01,279 i hope people find it funny too uh yeah 699 00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:03,120 yeah yeah this ain't your uh your 700 00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:06,320 cantina for sure 701 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:08,640 um well let's let's rewind just a little 702 00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:10,640 bit tim if you don't mind um yeah could 703 00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:12,400 you tell us about the creative team 704 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:14,000 behind this i've got the little cartoon 705 00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:15,600 there i know these 706 00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:17,600 the animators i believe they're in 707 00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:21,279 brooklyn um and uh how did it come to be 708 00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:23,200 that you got hooked up with this company 709 00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:26,240 and uh you're at your your voice actors 710 00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:29,039 so many notable people i might say um 711 00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:30,640 yeah tell us a little about the creative 712 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:32,480 process if you don't mind 713 00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:34,960 yeah it uh it was a bit of a journey we 714 00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:37,600 uh uh there are a few different options 715 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:39,600 of uh animation companies to work with 716 00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:42,880 and i chose cartoona because they had uh 717 00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:44,960 they've done so many different styles of 718 00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:47,919 animation and i felt like i could and as 719 00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:49,279 someone who's new 720 00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:51,679 to uh both writing for animation and 721 00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:54,159 creating something animated uh i wanted 722 00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:55,039 to 723 00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:57,600 work with the company that was a little 724 00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:00,000 more experienced uh and so that was like 725 00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:02,080 a big reason why i chose them and 726 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,440 knowing that they could tackle a lot of 727 00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:05,600 different styles gave me confidence that 728 00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:07,520 we could figure out a specific style for 729 00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:10,880 maurice on mars and uh beyond cartoona i 730 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:13,039 was very excited to bring on this artist 731 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:15,360 uche who has this great webcomic called 732 00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:18,240 uh vibe check uh and he's on instagram 733 00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:22,559 as uh i think it's u-c-h-o-m-a-a-a 734 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,120 uh and he creates these uh web comics 735 00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:27,360 that are so funny i think he has a very 736 00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,960 unique style so we brought him on to 737 00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:30,799 design the characters and i think you 738 00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:32,640 can see an element of that and uh the 739 00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,320 look of all the characters in maurice on 740 00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:36,480 mars um 741 00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:38,960 it's uh yeah and everything it's all 742 00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:40,799 this very uh 743 00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:41,600 uh 744 00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:44,720 a specific process for animation where 745 00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:45,760 we uh 746 00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:47,679 you know we had whittled down who we 747 00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:50,000 wanted to reach out to for for cast and 748 00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:52,320 i think we we ended up with a wonderful 749 00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:54,559 set of uh voice actors we have laurie 750 00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,960 beth denberg from all that of all that 751 00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,039 fame from the vital information for your 752 00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,279 everyday life she's the voice of beta uh 753 00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:03,520 maurice's boss we've got this wonderful 754 00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:05,679 comedian and uh saturday night live 755 00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:08,960 writer clara kane who voices uh 756 00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:11,679 maurice's co-worker janice we've got uh 757 00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:13,520 this great comedian sean white not the 758 00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:15,840 snowboarder the comedian to voice uh 759 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:18,399 this character who's like a combination 760 00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,520 of uh he's a combination of jeff bezos 761 00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:23,760 elon musk and richard branson and his 762 00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,399 name is braxton tusk and so he pops up 763 00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:28,799 yeah and then and 764 00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:31,679 i do not want to meet that character 765 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,200 uh we've got ashok kondabolu uh i used 766 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:37,120 to produce a podcast that he that he 767 00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:38,480 would co-host with his brother hari 768 00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:39,840 kondabolu 769 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:41,440 and he voices this sort of martian 770 00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:42,480 hipster 771 00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:46,159 his name is alistair and uh finally we 772 00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:48,080 have uh 773 00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,480 uh joe he's the regular in the the 774 00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:52,399 coffee shop he's always reading a weird 775 00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:54,640 different book and he's voiced by one of 776 00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:56,799 the greatest comedians of all time 777 00:30:02,149 --> 00:30:00,240 dwayne kennedy a chicago comic who i 778 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:02,159 think should be a household name 779 00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:04,480 uh he uh he's just the funniest person 780 00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,159 in the world some of the funniest lines 781 00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:08,240 in all three episodes are things that he 782 00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:11,120 just ad-libbed while recording uh and uh 783 00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:13,440 i think he's just like 784 00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:15,520 it's the best he's the best his 785 00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,120 character is amazing uh and so yeah so 786 00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:20,880 with animation it's the first thing you 787 00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,080 do is uh you get your cast uh we this 788 00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:26,640 was uh recorded in the the height of the 789 00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:29,360 pandemic so we sent specialized mics to 790 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:32,640 each uh actor uh recorded them all 791 00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:35,440 individually one at a time uh so we got 792 00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:37,520 different styles of of them saying 793 00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,919 different lines and once we compiled all 794 00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:41,520 of that the first thing you get is the 795 00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:44,720 radio play and uh that's just the audio 796 00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:47,440 maybe with a few sound effects and uh 797 00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:49,279 gave some notes on that and once that's 798 00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:51,520 locked that radio play gets sent off to 799 00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:54,320 the animators uh and before it actually 800 00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:56,159 starts getting animated there is a 801 00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:58,640 storyboard so a storyboard artist uh 802 00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:01,679 draws images of what each uh shot will 803 00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:02,720 look like 804 00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:03,600 uh 805 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:06,080 to match the radio play and that that 806 00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:07,440 gets edited into what's called an 807 00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,320 animatic so there's levels of notes and 808 00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:12,720 approval for each of these steps and the 809 00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:16,000 animatic is just those images uh uh 810 00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,919 playing alongside the radio play 811 00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,519 lock that down you send it to the 812 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:23,120 animators you get one cut of it send 813 00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:24,480 some notes get another cut send some 814 00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:26,000 notes you say can i get a blink here can 815 00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:28,399 they smile here can you know his hand do 816 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,880 this that kind of thing wow and i 817 00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:32,640 learned a lot about just having to be 818 00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:36,080 super specific um with my notes because 819 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:37,760 um there was only you know certain 820 00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:39,840 number of rounds of notes that i could 821 00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:43,679 give and uh i am so blessed that uh 822 00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:45,279 comedy central made me completely 823 00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:48,399 unaware of the budget so so i'm sure 824 00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:50,720 that i'm sure that uh 825 00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:52,640 you know there probably were a few times 826 00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:55,200 that i especially on the first episode 827 00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:56,799 where it's just like i'm trying i'm kind 828 00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:58,960 of wiggling with what's technically 829 00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:02,080 within the means you know 830 00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:03,760 but since the first episode especially 831 00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:06,240 like i i had to just could be hyper 832 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:08,960 focused on being as specific as possible 833 00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,200 with my notes knowing that uh there's a 834 00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:13,440 limited number of times that i can can 835 00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:15,440 you know rev this machine until we get 836 00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:19,679 the the locked episode um and it's it's 837 00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:20,559 been 838 00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:22,080 just a wonderful experience because it's 839 00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:23,519 someone who 840 00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:26,080 loves film uh studied film 841 00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:27,519 this uh 842 00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:30,159 animation is filmmaking and um it 843 00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:33,360 deserves to be to be treated as such uh 844 00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:36,159 and there's so many talented people that 845 00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,399 are involved and that it takes to make 846 00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:40,559 to make something like this possible and 847 00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:42,720 the i already had a lot of respect going 848 00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:45,039 in but i gained so much more coming out 849 00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:47,840 of it and i love animation and would 850 00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:50,480 love to to work uh in that space more if 851 00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:53,039 there's ever you know an opportunity uh 852 00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:56,240 yeah again i'm rambling aren't i no this 853 00:33:01,750 --> 00:32:59,200 is so cool i think you know for me and i 854 00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:01,760 hope the audience too like i had no idea 855 00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:04,559 what went into making a cartoon or an 856 00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,360 animated series and i that's i never 857 00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:09,200 dawned on me yeah it's kind of like a 858 00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:11,600 play like you start with a radio play 859 00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:13,840 like in the old days you just hear it 860 00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:15,840 you imagine and 861 00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:17,519 when you're listening to these old radio 862 00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:19,840 shows you are imagining what's happening 863 00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:21,200 what do these characters look like 864 00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:22,880 you're you're sort of 865 00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:25,120 molding it in your head and manifesting 866 00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,640 it and um yeah that's so cool 867 00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,240 when you see a cartoon you're like oh it 868 00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:32,480 all just kind of falls into place but no 869 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,200 there's so many unbelievably complex 870 00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:36,960 steps going into it so that's cool that 871 00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:39,120 you had like a learning process through 872 00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:41,600 it all and um now i have so much more 873 00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:44,320 respect on how these things are made um 874 00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:46,640 that's crazy and it's it's crazy too to 875 00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:49,600 think nowadays yeah you can mail a mic 876 00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:53,039 to an actor in zimbabwe and have them 877 00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:55,200 you know voice a character for you and 878 00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,200 boom like things have changed this 879 00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:59,279 pandemic has really changed the 880 00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:01,600 workforce in many many different ways 881 00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,080 like you mentioned your work with um 882 00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:06,480 with with all the the late night shows 883 00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:08,320 and whatnot like these are all done 884 00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:11,599 remotely which is crazy to think like 885 00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:13,119 we're kind of in this age where like do 886 00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:14,560 we need all these 887 00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:15,520 you know 888 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:17,919 50-story buildings in new york city or 889 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:19,200 can we just it's almost like we're 890 00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:21,520 hooking ourselves up to a matrix of uh 891 00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:23,599 individualized matrixes 892 00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:24,560 yes 893 00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:27,919 exactly man um yeah well okay that's 894 00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:30,480 cool well i wanna before we move on from 895 00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,200 the series um some of those social 896 00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:35,599 issues you know in the first episode i 897 00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:36,800 watch you've got the idea of 898 00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:39,760 colonization and you also have this idea 899 00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:42,320 of drones and i don't know maybe i'm off 900 00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:44,480 the mark but when i watch the episode 901 00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:46,639 these drones they are quote unquote like 902 00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:49,760 a law enforcement and um the way they 903 00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:52,639 talk the way they do things it's 904 00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:54,960 very reminiscent of um 905 00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,480 some of the social issues we're dealing 906 00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,240 with in today's world with law 907 00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:00,480 enforcement um and that's kind of what i 908 00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:02,400 took from it is this um 909 00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:04,480 you know we live in an age where we can 910 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:07,680 literally profile someone in a heartbeat 911 00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:10,160 facial recognition stuff like this which 912 00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,440 is terrifying and um 913 00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:15,680 and scary and i kind of saw that played 914 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:17,920 out through the drone characters in in 915 00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,920 the first episode so what are some of 916 00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:22,000 the social issues you'll be tackling in 917 00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:23,680 future episodes too 918 00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:27,680 uh episode two is about sports on mars 919 00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:29,200 and episode three 920 00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:31,040 is about the very first recession on 921 00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:33,520 mars so when it comes to sports the the 922 00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:35,040 conversation is 923 00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:36,160 about 924 00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,200 why 925 00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:39,599 we attach so much emotional importance 926 00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:40,880 to teams 927 00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:41,839 and 928 00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:44,480 what it means to own a team 929 00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:46,079 and uh 930 00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:46,880 uh 931 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:49,680 i'll just say it episode two is about 932 00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:52,160 it's about uh that braxton tusk 933 00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:54,480 character who's a combination of of elon 934 00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:58,480 musk richard branson and uh jeff bezos 935 00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:01,680 he owns the only two sports teams on 936 00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:04,480 mars and so the question arrives 937 00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:10,150 love i love a monopoly if i've ever 938 00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:13,040 heard yeah yeah what does it mean to 939 00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,119 have a monopoly like that 940 00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:17,119 what does it mean to know that that's a 941 00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,880 monopoly and not care 942 00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:20,079 and uh 943 00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:22,720 and what you know what even is a sport 944 00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:27,280 so we dive into into all of that um i i 945 00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,040 really think that that just like 946 00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:30,960 seriously saying anything and then 947 00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:32,960 putting on mars at the end is already 948 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,720 fun and feels like there's so much so 949 00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:36,800 many ways to explore it you know so you 950 00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:39,040 know policing on mars sports on mars 951 00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:41,200 recession on mars i think it's just a 952 00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:42,800 great uh 953 00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:45,280 way to to draw connections to what's 954 00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:48,480 happening in our own reality right now 955 00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,560 but also hopefully you know everything 956 00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:52,480 is universal enough that you can attach 957 00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:56,560 it to other things as as time goes by um 958 00:37:01,510 --> 00:36:58,800 yeah and i i just naturally find so much 959 00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:01,520 humor in 960 00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:03,119 i mean it sounds horrible like the world 961 00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:05,280 is horrible but i think like many 962 00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:06,560 comedians 963 00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:09,839 it's in those tense uh 964 00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:12,160 societal issues that 965 00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:17,030 a comedic eye can point out certain 966 00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:19,280 ironies and still make it funny but 967 00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:21,200 still make it you know something that 968 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,640 you can think about in a way that you 969 00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:24,720 wouldn't have otherwise and so that that 970 00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:27,760 was a big goal for from reese on mars uh 971 00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:28,960 and i think like this is the first 972 00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:30,800 project that is like something i've made 973 00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:31,920 on my own 974 00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:35,760 um and that i think expresses my comedic 975 00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:39,200 voice in a very concise way so i'm just 976 00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:40,880 super excited that it's out and i hope 977 00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:50,069 hey guys ryan here the summer in the 978 00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:53,280 skies podcast is a labor of love every 979 00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,440 week and with that comes many different 980 00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:57,920 costs to keep the show running that's 981 00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:00,640 where our patreon campaign comes in you 982 00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:02,720 give what you think the show is worth 983 00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,119 there's different rewards available all 984 00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,040 the time including shout outs on the 985 00:38:12,390 --> 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00:38:54,240 includes ufos along with cryptids ghosts 1000 00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:56,800 and head scratchers he doesn't 1001 00:39:02,069 --> 00:38:59,920 exaggerate or play a lot of spooky music 1002 00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,079 kind of like i'm doing right now the 1003 00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:04,880 stories speak for themselves one's like 1004 00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:07,680 a ghost story involving serial killer 1005 00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:10,320 ted bundy or the young man who 1006 00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:13,680 encountered an eight-legged demon then 1007 00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:16,160 there's the story of an alien abduction 1008 00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:18,880 by what could be considered a reptilian 1009 00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:21,839 now not all the stories are horrifying 1010 00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:24,160 some are actually pretty heartwarming 1011 00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,119 like a visit from a past loved one or a 1012 00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:29,440 peaceful near-death experience 1013 00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:32,320 regardless these are true and 1014 00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:35,280 fascinating stories told by ordinary 1015 00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:37,280 people who've had extraordinary 1016 00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:38,960 experiences 1017 00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:41,599 tune in to jim harold's campfire on 1018 00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,119 apple podcasts spotify or wherever you 1019 00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:47,520 listen to somewhere in the skies and 1020 00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:48,720 remember 1021 00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:55,030 and uh we should mention you are in the 1022 00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,599 show you do play more right yeah we 1023 00:40:02,310 --> 00:39:59,760 didn't even mention that i know i do 1024 00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:02,320 play maurice and i i you know as vain as 1025 00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:04,480 that may seem i do think of him as 1026 00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:06,240 someone other than myself and like if 1027 00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:08,240 you look if you look at all my emails 1028 00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:09,920 whenever i give notes about him i say 1029 00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,520 can maurice do this can reece do that 1030 00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:13,200 can we say this because i have to 1031 00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:14,880 separate him for myself i think that 1032 00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:17,440 would be absolutely insane if i were if 1033 00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:18,400 i were 1034 00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,400 you know um 1035 00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,560 but i think for uh 1036 00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:25,200 for the the process it was uh it just 1037 00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,680 made sense to make the character um look 1038 00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:29,359 like me uh 1039 00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:32,720 i i was uh up until like the very last 1040 00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:34,240 minute about the decision i was kind of 1041 00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:36,079 torn about should i have someone else 1042 00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:38,000 play maurice should maurice have a 1043 00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:40,319 different look but i think with this all 1044 00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:42,240 like i was saying being so condensed in 1045 00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,800 what is my actual comedic voice it it 1046 00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:46,400 ended up making the most sense to make 1047 00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:49,520 maurice um look like me uh but he's much 1048 00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,800 younger than me he has a little more 1049 00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:52,400 hope than i actually do 1050 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,309 yeah yeah he's an all-around sweet guy 1051 00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:00,720 that maurice yeah i love it i love it 1052 00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:03,920 hey i've a lot of people who listen and 1053 00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:06,400 watch my podcast you know they sometimes 1054 00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:08,720 think i'm playing a character 1055 00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:11,440 yeah we're all performing in some way 1056 00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:13,440 shape or form so i'd like to think of 1057 00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:15,119 myself the same way i come off very 1058 00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,079 optimistic on the podcast and then i 1059 00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:20,480 unrecord you know push stop and i'm like 1060 00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:22,640 oh god the world is a horrible 1061 00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:25,119 scary place but hopefully the aliens 1062 00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:27,280 will come and save us all someday 1063 00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:30,319 someday but hey there's our transition 1064 00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,800 there we go yes are the aliens going to 1065 00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:35,040 save us tim um 1066 00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:37,280 before we get to that question uh what 1067 00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:39,680 do you think what are your personal 1068 00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,480 thoughts on alien life do you think 1069 00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,560 we've been visited we have thousands of 1070 00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:47,119 people claiming they've seen ufos or 1071 00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:49,920 they've encountered beings or even been 1072 00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:52,880 kidnapped by them i mean this lore goes 1073 00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:53,760 back 1074 00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:56,880 centuries if decades if not centuries at 1075 00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,560 this point um yeah but what are your 1076 00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:00,240 personal thoughts on these bigger 1077 00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,680 questions of are we alone um and and if 1078 00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,280 we aren't alone 1079 00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:07,280 what would that mean for our planet if 1080 00:42:11,589 --> 00:42:09,119 you know they did come and land here one 1081 00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:11,599 day or we did get to mars and find holy 1082 00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,280 crap they've been here for you know 1083 00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:15,599 billions of years um those are a lot of 1084 00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:17,599 big broad questions i just asked yeah 1085 00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:19,440 what do you think about alien life 1086 00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,319 i think there definitely is alien life i 1087 00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:24,640 think it's foolish to think that um that 1088 00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,200 there isn't and so i'm naturally just 1089 00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:29,680 always interested in that question of 1090 00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:30,480 like 1091 00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:33,200 when we discover this alien life 1092 00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:35,040 how that will affect everything because 1093 00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:36,720 i think it will be a situation that's 1094 00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,280 similar to the discovery that the earth 1095 00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:42,240 isn't flat or that the the you know the 1096 00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:44,160 sun doesn't revolve around earth we 1097 00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:46,800 revolve around the sun i think we have 1098 00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:49,520 we tend as humans to have this very um 1099 00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:52,880 selfish view of things and uh i think 1100 00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,520 there is some danger in uh in how you 1101 00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:57,119 know the classic the day the earth stood 1102 00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:58,480 still situation 1103 00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:01,440 uh of how we will react to um the 1104 00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:04,880 discovery of of alien life um 1105 00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:07,520 i also don't think it will be i oddly 1106 00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:10,839 after ex the experiences of the last few 1107 00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,480 years um i have a newfound appreciation 1108 00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:16,880 for the human ability to adapt and i 1109 00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,960 think that we would actually 1110 00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:20,880 uh the two sides of the coin for me are 1111 00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:22,880 like the world will be on fire there'll 1112 00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,359 be worldwide panic you know religions 1113 00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:27,520 will have to shuffle to figure out how 1114 00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,560 they're going to deal with this new 1115 00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:30,400 knowledge do you try to convert the 1116 00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,880 aliens do you try and hear what their 1117 00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:34,319 religions are 1118 00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:35,760 uh 1119 00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:37,920 but at the other end of that is that we 1120 00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:39,839 have the ability to adapt to so many 1121 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:42,480 things that maybe this just won't be 1122 00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:45,280 actually as big a deal as we think i 1123 00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,160 mean the fact that the sort of ufo 1124 00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:50,400 revelations from the government came out 1125 00:43:52,829 --> 00:43:51,520 during this 1126 00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:52,839 pandemic 1127 00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,720 uh oh god 1128 00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:56,480 it was it was like the height of just 1129 00:44:01,270 --> 00:43:58,400 not knowing how to take any information 1130 00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:01,280 in that that stuff started coming out 1131 00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,560 um 1132 00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,560 i i 1133 00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:06,560 like what a what 1134 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:09,680 you know the the fantasy prone part of 1135 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,200 my brain is like 1136 00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:12,960 okay what is it gonna look like when the 1137 00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:15,200 government finally admits ufos are real 1138 00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:17,359 and i honestly can tell you it wasn't in 1139 00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:19,760 the middle of a freaking pandemic 1140 00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:22,000 and um you know maybe the politicians 1141 00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:23,359 trying to do it 1142 00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,359 maybe well hey that's a lot of people 1143 00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:27,599 think they're like okay we've thrown 1144 00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:29,680 everything else at them like if we're 1145 00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,160 gonna tell them that we've known for 1146 00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:34,240 decades aliens exist something crashed 1147 00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,560 in new mexico in the 40s and we got 1148 00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,960 bodies like now's the time so yeah i 1149 00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:40,160 don't know i don't know maybe they're 1150 00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,560 slowly getting there and we got a space 1151 00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:44,400 force now like so many things happened 1152 00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:45,440 in the last 1153 00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:48,000 few years that we're in the height of 1154 00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:49,680 misinformation and just not knowing how 1155 00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:51,119 to take anything in 1156 00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,440 that like i genuinely want to know like 1157 00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:55,119 maybe donald trump 1158 00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:57,920 heard had some weird information 1159 00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:59,119 that was like 1160 00:45:02,309 --> 00:45:00,319 you know 1161 00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:02,319 maybe this is maybe we should have a 1162 00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,200 space force i don't know i i don't know 1163 00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,920 what it means um 1164 00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:09,839 so it i definitely have this this 1165 00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,480 overall feeling that uh 1166 00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:14,400 that we are preparing for something if i 1167 00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:16,640 were to put my conspiracy hat on i think 1168 00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:19,119 the government is trying to prepare us 1169 00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:21,520 for something i just don't know exactly 1170 00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:22,800 what that is 1171 00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:23,760 um 1172 00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,240 but maybe you know i i think there's 1173 00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:28,560 alien life there has to be intelligent 1174 00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:30,319 alien life the equivalent of ourselves 1175 00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:32,480 or higher but you know this i want to 1176 00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:34,480 talk i want to meet you know 1177 00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:36,480 i want to see an alien cow i want to see 1178 00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:39,040 an alien you know we're so obsessed with 1179 00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:40,800 the intelligent part like i feel like we 1180 00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:41,760 don't like 1181 00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:44,640 an alien bird or you know uh let's talk 1182 00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:47,280 about those like i'm sure 1183 00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:48,880 has life technically already been 1184 00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:51,280 discovered on a microscopic level yet on 1185 00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:54,079 mars or anywhere else i'm sure it has 1186 00:45:59,390 --> 00:45:56,720 i mean there have been several times now 1187 00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:59,400 where um astrophysicists or 1188 00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:01,680 astrobiologists have claimed that life 1189 00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,000 has been found um that they're you know 1190 00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:06,880 we we have the the the lake beds that 1191 00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:08,319 have been found on mars where they 1192 00:46:13,829 --> 00:46:10,640 believe that ice and water had been 1193 00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:13,839 there for centuries and that there was 1194 00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:15,839 most likely life there at some point and 1195 00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,680 then you've got these little tardigrade 1196 00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,280 things that are kind of just making 1197 00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:21,839 their way through interstellar space 1198 00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:24,079 they can survive literally in any 1199 00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:26,160 climate and um 1200 00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:27,920 those technically those are not from 1201 00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:30,240 here those are extraterrestrial 1202 00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:32,240 now i don't know how much more people 1203 00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,000 need to really 1204 00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:36,480 i mean they they found like microbial 1205 00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:40,079 stuff in rocks on mars like in the 60s 1206 00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,000 or 70s or something but it it's always 1207 00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:46,079 it's not enough tim and i think that's 1208 00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:48,319 what people they want that martian they 1209 00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:51,359 want that yeah intelligent sentient life 1210 00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:53,920 um but hey if if we've discovered 1211 00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:56,160 microbial life somewhere those are the 1212 00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:58,240 building blocks up to what we became on 1213 00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:00,880 our planet so yeah hopefully it's out 1214 00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:03,280 there somewhere but yeah man i i'm kind 1215 00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:04,640 of with you you know i've been studying 1216 00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:08,240 ufos my whole life since age 13 and um 1217 00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:10,800 i'm no closer to any answers of if we've 1218 00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:13,280 been visited by something if that's what 1219 00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:15,200 are piloting these 1220 00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:17,599 claimed ufos that people have seen but 1221 00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:20,880 uh i can say of course i believe in 1222 00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:23,200 alien life it has to be mathematically 1223 00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:25,520 it has to be out there so 1224 00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:28,720 yeah a lot of a lot of questions um 1225 00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:30,640 there's also the switcheroo theory right 1226 00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:33,119 yeah please please the uh from uh 1227 00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:34,720 mission to mars remember that movie i 1228 00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:36,559 think don cheadle was in it where the 1229 00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:38,800 idea is that martians 1230 00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:39,839 uh 1231 00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:42,079 left their dna on earth 1232 00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:45,040 in order and that we kind of 1233 00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:48,480 so we're the aliens somehow like 1234 00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:51,440 there is this idea of panspermia they 1235 00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:53,599 call it where we were seated somewhere 1236 00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,559 else in the universe and um we just 1237 00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:58,319 happened the meteor fell on earth and 1238 00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:59,440 that's where we 1239 00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:01,920 came out of the ooze and it evolved into 1240 00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:02,800 the 1241 00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:06,559 i guess i'm using beautiful very 1242 00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:09,760 liberally uh creatures that we are today 1243 00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:11,200 um but 1244 00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:13,520 but yeah you do truly have to wonder are 1245 00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:15,599 we alien to our own planet that that's a 1246 00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,319 big profound question to ask and and 1247 00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:20,640 brings up a lot of societal questions 1248 00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:22,800 too like you know what if we do find 1249 00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:26,079 those aliens uh how will that change the 1250 00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:27,520 way we perceive 1251 00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:30,079 ourselves um you know when we see a 1252 00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:32,800 creature with a billion arms or 1253 00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:34,880 legs and or or something like in the 1254 00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:37,359 movie arrival like something so what we 1255 00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,319 never expected abstract yeah yeah and 1256 00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:42,640 then we look at each other and like wow 1257 00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,280 your your skin's like two shades lighter 1258 00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:47,200 or darker than mine and we're like 1259 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:50,319 having riots and wars over this kind of 1260 00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:51,760 [\h__\h] like come on 1261 00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:52,880 look at this 1262 00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:57,200 let's let's let's work together on this 1263 00:49:01,910 --> 00:48:59,440 please please if there's one thing i 1264 00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:01,920 agree with ronald reagan on it's we have 1265 00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:04,480 to come together and realize we're 1266 00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:07,200 humanity you know so 1267 00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:09,920 i don't know big big big questions um 1268 00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:11,920 you mentioned the government i i'd love 1269 00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,319 to put that conspiracy theory hat on for 1270 00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:16,640 just a second um 1271 00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:19,760 we have gotten in the past few years uh 1272 00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:21,520 word that there was a secret pentagon 1273 00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:23,920 ufo program and that they were looking 1274 00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:26,240 at all these military ufo videos stuff 1275 00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:28,720 like that um crazy crazy and then we 1276 00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:31,760 learned that um they're creating a new 1277 00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:34,800 pentagon ufo program and there were just 1278 00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:38,000 congressional hearings on ufos 1279 00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:40,240 again dude this is like my dreams coming 1280 00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:43,359 true in a time where like so much is 1281 00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:44,800 going on that no one's really paying 1282 00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,200 attention but um 1283 00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:49,760 what do you think governmental wise if 1284 00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:51,599 you had to put on that conspiracy theory 1285 00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:54,800 hat why now why are they doing all this 1286 00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:57,280 um you know we have a crisis not a 1287 00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:00,160 crisis we have a full bone invasion and 1288 00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,079 war going on in in europe right now um 1289 00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:06,480 to deal with and then we have oh by the 1290 00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:08,960 way these ufos our military are seeing 1291 00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:10,839 they're not russia they're not 1292 00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:12,960 china ours what the hell are they that's 1293 00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:14,720 literally what our government said oh 1294 00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,119 yeah yeah so yeah what do you think why 1295 00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:19,520 are they doing this all and um 1296 00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:21,440 if i'm trying to think about it 1297 00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,720 yeah if i'm trying to think of a 1298 00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:24,720 practical reason 1299 00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:26,720 um 1300 00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:30,079 perhaps this is an agreement that the 1301 00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:32,559 governments have to say we're all spying 1302 00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:33,920 on each other but we don't want each 1303 00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,599 other to get in trouble because we know 1304 00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:37,280 that's the deal we're never going to 1305 00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:39,680 stop spying on each other so let's just 1306 00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:40,400 say 1307 00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:43,200 that we don't know who 1308 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:44,400 that's the 1309 00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:46,720 that's really interesting yeah yeah yeah 1310 00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:48,960 we do we we have to admit like oh yeah 1311 00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:51,119 we got drones over in russia we got 1312 00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:52,480 satellites that's how we know what 1313 00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:54,480 they're doing it makes perfect sense 1314 00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:55,520 yeah 1315 00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,920 um but i you know i i really don't i 1316 00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:01,200 don't know 1317 00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:02,480 i i 1318 00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:03,200 the 1319 00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:05,359 my brain goes to and you know you have 1320 00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:06,800 this brain as well where you're always 1321 00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:09,440 constructing plots and uh like if i were 1322 00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:10,720 to make a movie 1323 00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:11,599 or 1324 00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:13,359 you know my brain goes to the idea that 1325 00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,079 there is intelligent life and 1326 00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,920 the heads of our governments are always 1327 00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:19,680 making deals with them because they know 1328 00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:21,359 that we can't handle 1329 00:51:31,630 --> 00:51:22,800 the 1330 00:51:34,829 --> 00:51:31,640 alien 1331 00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:34,839 [Laughter] 1332 00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,559 what's 1333 00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:38,880 yeah what do they want from us maybe 1334 00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,960 they asked us to start draining the oil 1335 00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,559 out of earth because there's something 1336 00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:44,480 they'll get from that you know maybe it 1337 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:47,520 turns into a nice cookie or something uh 1338 00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:49,210 once all the oil gets drained out 1339 00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:51,680 [Laughter] 1340 00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:53,920 that's it we've solved it that's it 1341 00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:55,599 right there i love it 1342 00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:58,319 well water too like a lot of these ufos 1343 00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:00,880 are seen over our oceans and a lot of 1344 00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:02,240 people are like huh do they have an 1345 00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:04,480 interest in our water is that a source 1346 00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,880 of like propulsion for them or do they 1347 00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:08,400 need it on their planet so they're 1348 00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:11,280 taking it like we don't know but they 1349 00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:12,960 you're right there are these connections 1350 00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:15,920 you can make and i i agree i do live in 1351 00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:18,480 that world of like creating movie plots 1352 00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:21,760 and and i think it's actually it hinders 1353 00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:24,480 my my perception of the real world a lot 1354 00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,160 because you know when this whole russia 1355 00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:28,480 thing first started two days in i'm like 1356 00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:30,960 world's ending like the bombs going off 1357 00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:33,280 this is it yeah and it took my my 1358 00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:35,280 partner to sit me down slap me and be 1359 00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:37,440 like right this isn't a movie like 1360 00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:39,200 there's so many moving parts to these 1361 00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:41,119 things and like get out of that 1362 00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:43,440 mulder-esque brain space for just a 1363 00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:45,440 minute and realize like the world's much 1364 00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:48,400 bigger and far more complex than we can 1365 00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:51,200 truly think so i agree with you have you 1366 00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:53,280 seen the show brain dead i'm obsessed 1367 00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:54,400 with the show 1368 00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:55,680 you have to watch it do you have 1369 00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,280 paramount plus 1370 00:53:02,069 --> 00:52:59,200 i do yes i got it used to watch the 1371 00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:02,079 tonys yeah there's the theater 1372 00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:03,760 this show is going to blow your mind it 1373 00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:06,559 only had one season and it uh aired on 1374 00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:11,359 cbs of all of all networks during the uh 1375 00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:15,200 the 2016 uh election cycle 1376 00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:16,480 okay um 1377 00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:20,950 it is about 1378 00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:22,160 alien 1379 00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:25,440 insects who land on earth 1380 00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:27,520 in washington dc 1381 00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:28,800 and 1382 00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:29,599 they 1383 00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:34,720 people in the senate 1384 00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:36,240 and things like that 1385 00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:38,160 uh half of their brain oozes out of 1386 00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:40,960 their ears and so they're in control of 1387 00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:43,280 all of american politics 1388 00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:45,920 and like they they are the reason for 1389 00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:47,760 the intensification 1390 00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,480 of all of american politics and it is 1391 00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:53,040 the most surreal uh 1392 00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:54,960 show that you can imagine 1393 00:54:03,829 --> 00:53:59,680 coming on on the cbs network uh and i i 1394 00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:03,839 just i love it so much it was so good um 1395 00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:05,040 and the creation of course it probably 1396 00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,559 got cancelled right yeah it got 1397 00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:08,240 cancelled but the creators of that are 1398 00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:10,400 great like they have that show evil and 1399 00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:12,800 um yeah like i'm just obsessed with 1400 00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:15,200 everything that they that they make um 1401 00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:16,880 so that my brain goes to those sorts of 1402 00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:19,359 things too sometimes not that i'm i'm a 1403 00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:22,000 reptile everyone's a reptile kind of 1404 00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,720 reptile reptilian secret society 1405 00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:26,240 government kind of guy 1406 00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,800 but um 1407 00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:31,200 yeah yeah yeah okay there's a time and a 1408 00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:33,599 place for those conversations we won't 1409 00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:35,680 go there today but yeah 1410 00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:39,119 but i think there's a human uh need to 1411 00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:40,160 uh 1412 00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:41,280 to 1413 00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:45,839 concept of of higher beings and higher 1414 00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:48,400 powers interrupting and whether or not 1415 00:54:51,910 --> 00:54:50,400 aliens are real i think that they could 1416 00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:51,920 there could just be an element of that 1417 00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:53,040 natural 1418 00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:55,119 need that we have to have some sort of 1419 00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:57,839 explanation for certain odd phenomena 1420 00:55:02,150 --> 00:54:59,920 and things like that 1421 00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:02,160 cool cool yeah i love that i love that 1422 00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:03,119 um 1423 00:55:06,789 --> 00:55:05,359 well i want to touch on there's been a 1424 00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:06,799 few recent 1425 00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:09,599 news stories tim that have broke and uh 1426 00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,359 i'd love to get your thoughts on these 1427 00:55:16,789 --> 00:55:13,440 as kind of an outsider to the world of 1428 00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:16,799 ufos um these stories are mainstream and 1429 00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,559 they're they're out there like never 1430 00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:20,480 before we're getting stories 1431 00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:24,559 in cnn fox uh insert mainstream media 1432 00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:27,520 outlet here of ufos and it's become like 1433 00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:30,240 a part of everyday conversation um and 1434 00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:32,240 i've got a couple videos i'd love to 1435 00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:33,920 play if you're willing to stick around 1436 00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,880 yeah and your your thoughts on these um 1437 00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:38,640 let me pull up the first one here this 1438 00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:40,240 is a story about 1439 00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:43,200 nasa and um you know we've got this 1440 00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,720 thing in the pentagon starting where 1441 00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:46,319 they're going to look at ufos over 1442 00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:47,520 military 1443 00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,520 installations like hundreds of reports 1444 00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:51,599 of these things um but then we've got 1445 00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:53,680 nasa who you presumably would think 1446 00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:56,720 would be the ones to look for ufos um 1447 00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:58,880 fine getting in the game now um so i'm 1448 00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:01,599 gonna go ahead and play that for you now 1449 00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:03,839 okay ufo news there have been 1450 00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,079 unexplained sightings of flying objects 1451 00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:08,400 in the sky for decades the pentagon 1452 00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:10,160 recently formed a new office to study 1453 00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:12,079 ufo reports and now 1454 00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:14,799 now it's nasa's turn the space agency 1455 00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:16,960 launching a new team to investigate who 1456 00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:19,359 or what may be behind the unexplained 1457 00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:22,480 sightings here's nbc's scottie schwartz 1458 00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:24,400 the effort to uncover the mystery behind 1459 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:26,640 those ufo sightings is about to get some 1460 00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:30,480 help from some serious space pros 1461 00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:32,400 nasa announcing it'll form a new and 1462 00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:34,000 independent team to investigate 1463 00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,799 unidentified aerial phenomenon or uaps 1464 00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:38,640 but instead of focusing on classified 1465 00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:40,960 encounters with military jets the agency 1466 00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:42,640 plans to examine data they've already 1467 00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:44,640 possibly captured and may even include 1468 00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:47,440 recordings taken by civilians just last 1469 00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:49,119 month this video shot on an iphone 1470 00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:51,359 during an air show in miami appears to 1471 00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:52,799 show something shooting up out of the 1472 00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:55,440 water with people swimming nearby and i 1473 00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:58,319 saw it and i was like 1474 00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:00,000 what nut 1475 00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:03,280 like no way nasa's review 1476 00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:05,040 like this possible sighting captured in 1477 00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:08,000 utah by a film crew in 2016. i don't 1478 00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:10,400 think it's bird i don't think it's a bug 1479 00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:13,599 i think it's exactly what a you know ufo 1480 00:57:17,589 --> 00:57:15,839 stands for unidentified flying object 1481 00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:17,599 once the investigative team officially 1482 00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:19,040 launches in the fall they're hoping to 1483 00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:20,880 cross-reference things like video with 1484 00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:23,280 other data like satellite images or low 1485 00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:25,200 orbit observations made by the space 1486 00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:26,960 agency this is what we do right now so 1487 00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:30,160 this is not our first rodeo we discover 1488 00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:33,119 and explore many many things in ways 1489 00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:34,960 that uh frankly at the beginning look 1490 00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,440 almost like a miracle and then as we go 1491 00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:39,119 forward looks like something new we 1492 00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:45,109 it all comes just weeks after congress 1493 00:57:49,589 --> 00:57:47,200 held its first public ufo hearing in 1494 00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,599 half a century following hundreds of 1495 00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:51,520 unexplainable sightings by the military 1496 00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:53,200 in restricted airspace 1497 00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:55,040 and while most of those are expected to 1498 00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:57,520 remain classified including at least 11 1499 00:58:01,829 --> 00:58:00,000 near misses with military jets more 1500 00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:01,839 everyday americans baffled by what 1501 00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:03,920 they've seen are now hoping nasa could 1502 00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:06,799 soon provide more public answers do you 1503 00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:09,119 have enough data to say what these could 1504 00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:12,000 be at this moment in time we do not have 1505 00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:14,319 enough data to really conclude does that 1506 00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:15,359 mean that 1507 00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,400 it's 1508 00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:18,400 not extraterrestrial life i'm a 1509 00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,400 scientist and uh if somebody asks me is 1510 00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:22,480 this extraterrestrial lie frankly at 1511 00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:24,160 this moment in time the simple answer is 1512 00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:26,960 the right one which is i don't know so 1513 00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:28,160 that 1514 00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:34,480 last part i'm a scientist so 1515 00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,040 the the most uh objective answer i could 1516 00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:39,599 give is i don't know which i don't know 1517 00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:41,920 um but yeah nasa is going to be looking 1518 00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:44,559 at like civilian ufo sightings which i 1519 00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:46,559 think is cool like the government's just 1520 00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:50,160 interested in like ufos over military 1521 00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:52,799 installations and like things uh 1522 00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:54,400 whatever like breaching national 1523 00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:57,359 security issues but now we have nasa a 1524 00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:58,960 government-funded program who's going to 1525 00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:01,359 be like yo you see a ufo send us the 1526 00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:02,880 video we'll try to 1527 00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:05,040 find an explanation for it i don't know 1528 00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:06,720 um yeah what do you make of this nasa 1529 00:59:11,109 --> 00:59:09,599 getting involved i don't know what what 1530 00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:11,119 to make of it you would think it was 1531 00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:12,960 something that more uh 1532 00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:14,480 um 1533 00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,559 the military or something or or 1534 00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:18,480 something a little more 1535 00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:19,440 uh 1536 00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:20,640 something that would at least give the 1537 00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,400 illusion of we think that all ufos are 1538 00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:26,559 something to do with you know 1539 00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:28,319 probes from other countries or some sort 1540 00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:30,880 of spy gear but the nasa of it all 1541 00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:33,040 definitely makes makes you 1542 00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:34,960 uh first think that this is something 1543 00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,960 from from outer space 1544 00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:38,079 um 1545 00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:40,960 good point i think that's kind of 1546 00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:43,119 the big thing here is you know 1547 00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:45,599 militarily they're looking at things you 1548 00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:46,799 know 1549 00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:49,119 just that their pilots have seen 1550 00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:51,760 flying in the air but like space 1551 00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:54,160 breaking that barrier between 1552 00:59:59,589 --> 00:59:56,559 sky and space is a whole different story 1553 01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:59,599 so i'm hoping we're gonna get like more 1554 01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:01,839 stuff from maybe there's videos that 1555 01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:03,680 were taken from the international space 1556 01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:05,520 station or stuff like that yeah i want 1557 01:00:08,789 --> 01:00:06,960 to know more about this department and 1558 01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:08,799 who's working there and what you know 1559 01:00:11,990 --> 01:00:10,640 when they get a case and they go back to 1560 01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:12,000 the office and 1561 01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,109 one of them seemed to be you know 1562 01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:23,599 sucking up tons of water from the oceans 1563 01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:27,040 and yeah i i can't imagine 1564 01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:29,520 one almost just well that video said too 1565 01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:32,000 like the pentagon 11 near misses which 1566 01:00:37,829 --> 01:00:35,040 is terrifying that like pilots have 1567 01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:37,839 almost or even like civilian airplanes 1568 01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:40,720 have almost hit these ufos no matter 1569 01:00:44,870 --> 01:00:42,319 what they are whether they're like an 1570 01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:44,880 interstellar craft or like a drone yeah 1571 01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:47,760 like people could potentially get hurt 1572 01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:49,680 from these things so yeah they probably 1573 01:00:53,829 --> 01:00:51,119 should figure out what the hell they are 1574 01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:53,839 in my opinion now this is also a theory 1575 01:00:59,270 --> 01:00:57,119 that that these ufos could be uh can 1576 01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:59,280 they be us from the future is that not a 1577 01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:00,160 theory 1578 01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:03,280 dude okay i can't you're i think you are 1579 01:01:07,190 --> 01:01:06,240 a psychic because that is our next 1580 01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:07,200 video 1581 01:01:09,910 --> 01:01:08,000 um 1582 01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:09,920 you are the king of transitions i'm 1583 01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:12,160 gonna go ahead and play 1584 01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:14,079 our next video that is what we call 1585 01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:16,799 synchronicity ladies and gentlemen um 1586 01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:19,920 let me pull this one up and then we will 1587 01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:21,839 definitely have something to talk about 1588 01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:29,430 again i can't believe you brought that 1589 01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:32,880 up um this tim peek a one of our whoops 1590 01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:34,720 hold on sorry hi 1591 01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:35,760 there we go 1592 01:01:42,789 --> 01:01:40,640 talking about us from the future this is 1593 01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:42,799 a interesting concept and to hear 1594 01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:45,200 someone like tim peake one of our like 1595 01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:46,880 leading astronauts on the international 1596 01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:49,440 space station uh bring that up was 1597 01:01:53,829 --> 01:01:50,960 really interesting because a lot of 1598 01:01:55,349 --> 01:01:53,839 people just think oh yeah it's e.t or um 1599 01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:55,359 yeah you know yeah it's something from 1600 01:01:59,549 --> 01:01:57,200 another planet but there's all these 1601 01:02:01,750 --> 01:01:59,559 other theories out there could they be 1602 01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:01,760 interdimensional could they be 1603 01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:04,400 us from the future um so what do you 1604 01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:06,640 think us from the future why why do you 1605 01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:09,280 think they would be coming back to uh to 1606 01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:11,760 visit us if that is the case 1607 01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:14,400 i would i would almost argue that 1608 01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:15,920 more interesting than it being us from 1609 01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:18,160 the future if it's us from the future 1610 01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:19,599 it's probably 1611 01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:22,640 a tourist thing or you know like like 1612 01:02:26,549 --> 01:02:25,039 you get a tourist experience of the past 1613 01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:26,559 or you're just trying to capture certain 1614 01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,440 things um and the question is at all 1615 01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:31,680 those spaces that you do that people 1616 01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:33,760 document these unidentified flying 1617 01:02:37,109 --> 01:02:35,680 objects what is so interesting about 1618 01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:37,119 these spaces that you're seeing them if 1619 01:02:40,630 --> 01:02:38,640 they're coming from the future i'm not 1620 01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:40,640 necessarily sure but if they're coming 1621 01:02:43,589 --> 01:02:42,319 from the past 1622 01:02:45,750 --> 01:02:43,599 um 1623 01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:45,760 if somehow the technology this 1624 01:02:50,549 --> 01:02:47,680 technology existed with beyond our 1625 01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:50,559 knowledge in the in the past and let's 1626 01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:53,280 say you're russia or something and 1627 01:02:57,029 --> 01:02:54,720 you're trying to get a glimpse of the 1628 01:02:59,029 --> 01:02:57,039 future so that you can control certain 1629 01:03:00,870 --> 01:02:59,039 things in the moment i don't know that 1630 01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:00,880 for me that's the more interesting 1631 01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:03,680 potential for for time travel with 1632 01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:05,920 unidentified flying objects 1633 01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:07,200 um 1634 01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:08,720 yeah how do you feel about it have you 1635 01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:10,480 talked about it on the show before 1636 01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:12,880 yeah so there's this really interesting 1637 01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:16,880 case uh back in 1980 uh this happened in 1638 01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:20,000 um suffolk england uh there were two 1639 01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:22,720 nato bases joint military bases one 1640 01:03:26,470 --> 01:03:25,599 owned by england one owned by the us 1641 01:03:29,029 --> 01:03:26,480 um 1642 01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:29,039 and forgive the ambulance here in queens 1643 01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:31,039 if you can hear it um 1644 01:03:35,670 --> 01:03:33,839 yeah so two joint military bases uh back 1645 01:03:37,750 --> 01:03:35,680 during the cold war so we were over 1646 01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:37,760 there ready if anything got really 1647 01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:40,960 heated and whatnot and um 1648 01:03:44,470 --> 01:03:42,720 this ufo 1649 01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:44,480 was tracked on radar 1650 01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:47,359 and then went into this forest which was 1651 01:03:51,910 --> 01:03:49,119 actually it was called rendulsham forest 1652 01:03:55,029 --> 01:03:51,920 it was between the bases um 1653 01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:55,039 a ufo landed in the forest so then you 1654 01:04:00,630 --> 01:03:56,960 had all these military personnel some 1655 01:04:02,630 --> 01:04:00,640 like 70 plus officers um 1656 01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:02,640 that went out and actually investigated 1657 01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:03,920 what the hell is this thing that just 1658 01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:06,559 landed between our military bases and 1659 01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:08,160 when they got out there man and there's 1660 01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:11,680 been a handful or so of the officers who 1661 01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:13,839 have come forward since this happened 1662 01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:17,200 and said straight up ufo like 1663 01:04:23,349 --> 01:04:21,440 it was like triangular in in shape um 1664 01:04:25,589 --> 01:04:23,359 it had weird lights it was sort of just 1665 01:04:27,829 --> 01:04:25,599 hovering there and some of them 1666 01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:27,839 including the deputy base commander at 1667 01:04:32,230 --> 01:04:30,160 the time he went out there with a tape 1668 01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:32,240 recorder and was recording what was 1669 01:04:38,150 --> 01:04:36,000 happening in real time and he said that 1670 01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:38,160 this ufo that was hovering 1671 01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:41,520 it pierced a beam through the bunkers on 1672 01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:44,559 the base and like affected the nuclear 1673 01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:46,559 ordnance that was being housed there at 1674 01:04:48,549 --> 01:04:47,440 the time 1675 01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:48,559 which is 1676 01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:50,720 insane and this is 1677 01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:52,799 available you can listen to the audio 1678 01:04:57,670 --> 01:04:54,960 recordings of this i might even put it 1679 01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:57,680 in right here um if if people want to 1680 01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:59,760 listen to it it's a little startling uh 1681 01:05:03,910 --> 01:05:01,280 to hear this thing happening back in 1682 01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:03,920 1980 and these officers being like 1683 01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:06,880 holy [\h__\h] like what is going on like is 1684 01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:08,880 the world about to end are these aliens 1685 01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:12,000 is this russia like what is happening so 1686 01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:13,119 um 1687 01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:15,839 one of these guys says that he touched 1688 01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:18,400 the craft it got so low to the ground he 1689 01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:20,880 touched it and immediately 1690 01:05:23,990 --> 01:05:22,880 some weird 1691 01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:24,000 code 1692 01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:26,720 was like downloaded into his brain i'm 1693 01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:28,319 not kidding you this guy has said that 1694 01:05:31,589 --> 01:05:30,000 when he touched the craft 1695 01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:31,599 something went into his head and told 1696 01:05:34,549 --> 01:05:32,720 him 1697 01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:34,559 we are from the future we're here to 1698 01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:36,000 tell you to stop messing around with 1699 01:05:40,789 --> 01:05:38,720 these nukes um like this is going to be 1700 01:05:43,109 --> 01:05:40,799 really bad in the future and it's why 1701 01:05:45,270 --> 01:05:43,119 we're coming back and messing with them 1702 01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:45,280 so that you know you're like stop doing 1703 01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:47,119 this and um 1704 01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:49,200 yeah so pretty crazy again this is one 1705 01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:51,599 man's claim yeah uh 1706 01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:54,160 but yeah there is a few books out right 1707 01:05:59,670 --> 01:05:56,319 now by a professor named michael masters 1708 01:06:03,190 --> 01:05:59,680 who uh has has coined this term i think 1709 01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:03,200 it's temporal terrestrials where it's 1710 01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:04,720 not so much extraterrestrial from 1711 01:06:08,230 --> 01:06:06,240 another planet but it's us from the 1712 01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:08,240 future and he goes into sort of the 1713 01:06:12,390 --> 01:06:10,079 evolution of um 1714 01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:12,400 like you said they could be tourists or 1715 01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:14,319 they could be coming back to try to 1716 01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:15,359 change 1717 01:06:19,510 --> 01:06:18,000 things a lot like quantum leap into 1718 01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:19,520 summer snacks 1719 01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:21,599 dr samuel beckett coming back i don't 1720 01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:22,319 know 1721 01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:27,200 on on google maps 1722 01:06:31,430 --> 01:06:29,359 when they're trying to get those images 1723 01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:31,440 of exactly what your neighborhood looks 1724 01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:34,160 like so that you can do that uh pov 1725 01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:35,839 thing that 360 thing maybe it's just 1726 01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:38,400 that maybe it's this is a future google 1727 01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:39,359 tech 1728 01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:42,000 coming back so that you can get a 360 1729 01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:43,200 image 1730 01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:45,039 of every 1731 01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:46,799 uh decade 1732 01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:49,359 on earth so that you go back in time and 1733 01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:51,790 then now you have a downloadable 1734 01:06:56,390 --> 01:06:54,400 [Laughter] 1735 01:06:58,950 --> 01:06:56,400 you can basically watch the past because 1736 01:07:01,349 --> 01:06:58,960 there's a 3d rendering of it that we've 1737 01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:01,359 gone back in time to get so you can look 1738 01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:03,839 at your your grandfather meet your uh 1739 01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:08,079 your grandmother and you can look at uh 1740 01:07:16,549 --> 01:07:09,200 that's 1741 01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:16,559 scariest that you 1742 01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:18,319 i want to go back and watch like the 1743 01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:20,480 lincoln assassination 1744 01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:22,240 i can't even imagine the things people 1745 01:07:29,109 --> 01:07:25,039 would want to go back in the past 1746 01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:29,119 at our present expense yeah yeah yeah 1747 01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:30,640 really interesting thing 1748 01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:31,839 yeah 1749 01:07:35,589 --> 01:07:34,640 what'd you say the pornhub ramifications 1750 01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:35,599 of that 1751 01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:38,799 are i'm afraid of 1752 01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:39,839 yup 1753 01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:42,480 hey hey we had to go there if we had to 1754 01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:45,920 go there um tim man this has been so 1755 01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:47,520 refreshing man to kind of have this 1756 01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:49,839 conversation with you it's unlike most 1757 01:07:53,829 --> 01:07:51,760 of our episodes where we just cover like 1758 01:07:56,549 --> 01:07:53,839 specific ufo cases 1759 01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:56,559 and stuff like that um but before i let 1760 01:08:01,430 --> 01:07:58,000 you go um 1761 01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:01,440 i'd love to just get an idea from you of 1762 01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:02,880 uh 1763 01:08:07,990 --> 01:08:06,000 why why you made maurice on mars what do 1764 01:08:11,029 --> 01:08:08,000 you want the audience to really take 1765 01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:11,039 away from um from the themes that you 1766 01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:12,880 tried to convey in this and yeah what do 1767 01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:14,799 you hope people take away from watching 1768 01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:17,040 watching the animated series 1769 01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:18,719 um i'm hoping that they find the 1770 01:08:23,110 --> 01:08:20,239 characters endearing and that they want 1771 01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:23,120 to learn more about them and ultimately 1772 01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:25,199 i just want this to be a fun show that 1773 01:08:30,149 --> 01:08:26,960 makes people think a little bit in a 1774 01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:30,159 speculative way about uh our future and 1775 01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:33,120 how you know the future of 1776 01:08:37,910 --> 01:08:35,120 the what's happening on maurice on mars 1777 01:08:40,149 --> 01:08:37,920 is potentially a result of what happens 1778 01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:40,159 uh because of the decisions we make now 1779 01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:41,839 and maurice and mars intentionally takes 1780 01:08:46,149 --> 01:08:44,400 place in an unspecific 1781 01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:46,159 future there's no time stamp on when 1782 01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:49,199 maurice and mars takes place 1783 01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:51,520 and beyond that um 1784 01:08:56,229 --> 01:08:53,279 i think 1785 01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:57,829 what excites me about some of the 1786 01:09:02,789 --> 01:09:00,000 characters is that it it they just 1787 01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:02,799 explore different questions like beta 1788 01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:04,799 maurice's boss 1789 01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:07,920 is a self-hating robot who uh 1790 01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:10,480 who who doesn't you know want to be uh 1791 01:09:15,349 --> 01:09:13,359 identified as a as a robot and as an 1792 01:09:17,669 --> 01:09:15,359 entrepreneur and so there's questions 1793 01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:17,679 about you know when when is sentience 1794 01:09:21,910 --> 01:09:19,359 and how do we define robots sentience 1795 01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:21,920 from human sentience all very under the 1796 01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:24,319 surface of this comedic cartoon right 1797 01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:26,480 right that's only five minute episodes 1798 01:09:31,749 --> 01:09:30,000 but um and even just like you know if 1799 01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:31,759 there were to be more we definitely 1800 01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:34,960 would explore a lot about um alien life 1801 01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:36,560 what it would mean to coexist with 1802 01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:40,400 aliens things like that so uh ultimately 1803 01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:43,040 i just hope that if there are people who 1804 01:09:47,749 --> 01:09:45,679 who uh enjoy science fiction and enjoy 1805 01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:47,759 science fiction cartoons and 1806 01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:51,600 enjoy a certain um casual low-key comedy 1807 01:09:53,590 --> 01:09:52,480 uh 1808 01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:53,600 you know 1809 01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:55,520 that this stands out to you and that you 1810 01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:58,239 uh that you might want more um that's 1811 01:10:01,510 --> 01:09:59,760 all i can say i'm the type of guy who 1812 01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:01,520 can keep rambling until you start 1813 01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:03,520 playing the uh 1814 01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:05,440 music 1815 01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:10,480 again like i know we talked about it at 1816 01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:12,960 the top of the show but um i think what 1817 01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:15,600 science fiction and comedy do best is 1818 01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:18,159 put that mirror back on us and i think 1819 01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:20,400 with maurice on mars you've hit a very 1820 01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:21,360 subtle 1821 01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:22,960 uh way of 1822 01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:25,120 looking at ourselves and and asking 1823 01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:28,080 these questions and um that's very 1824 01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:30,320 important especially in today's world 1825 01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:32,239 and i think that's what comedy does best 1826 01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:34,320 you know it kind of brings the light out 1827 01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:35,920 of the dark whereas drama brings the 1828 01:10:40,550 --> 01:10:38,719 dark into the light um i i think you've 1829 01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:40,560 really you've really touched on some 1830 01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:42,880 powerful things in the limited time you 1831 01:10:48,310 --> 01:10:45,440 have in an animated series so i can't 1832 01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:48,320 wait to see the future of of the series 1833 01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:51,120 where it goes from there so um yeah of 1834 01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:53,840 course the final most important question 1835 01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:55,840 where can we find maurice 1836 01:11:00,390 --> 01:10:57,120 and where could we find everything 1837 01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,400 you're up to man give us the shameless 1838 01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:02,320 maurice and mars uh the best place you 1839 01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:04,159 can find it is on comedy central's 1840 01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:06,400 animated youtube channel so just go on 1841 01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:08,080 to youtube type in the words of maurice 1842 01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:11,199 on mars if you like it one like or share 1843 01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:14,640 or positive review will go a long way um 1844 01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:17,040 and for me uh on twitter i'm at tim 1845 01:11:20,229 --> 01:11:18,400 barnes four five one that's the 1846 01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:20,239 temperature at which jokes burn you can 1847 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:21,600 also find more stuff about me at 1848 01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:27,350 [Laughter] 1849 01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:28,320 uh 1850 01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:30,320 yeah yeah and um 1851 01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:32,400 i've you know i'm always tweeting jokes 1852 01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:35,280 uh writing for different shows and uh 1853 01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,920 hope uh you know you follow me and get 1854 01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:39,440 some joy out of the stuff that i do you 1855 01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:40,800 know what i mean just 1856 01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:42,880 all right don't we all love a shameless 1857 01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:48,470 i i could tell you're a humble guy no um 1858 01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:50,560 i loved it i can't wait to check out 1859 01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:53,040 your other work from here um we'll have 1860 01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:56,239 links to uh the youtube comedy central 1861 01:12:00,229 --> 01:11:57,920 youtube channel in the show notes and 1862 01:12:01,990 --> 01:12:00,239 links to your stuff um but i gotta thank 1863 01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:02,000 you for taking a chance and coming on a 1864 01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:05,280 ufo podcast i'm sure thank you i'm sure 1865 01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:06,880 when i reached out you were like oh what 1866 01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:09,760 am i getting myself but i hope it was uh 1867 01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:11,840 it was a fun conversation yeah and i 1868 01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:14,000 hope that the regular listeners are not 1869 01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:17,360 totally disappointed by my my lack of 1870 01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:19,760 intense knowledge uh i want to learn 1871 01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:23,920 more i want to believe and uh yes uh 1872 01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:26,960 continue and you're such a great host um 1873 01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:28,640 if there's ever a reason that you would 1874 01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:31,440 want me back on uh or if i ever get 1875 01:12:35,110 --> 01:12:32,880 abducted by aliens you're the first 1876 01:12:39,430 --> 01:12:35,120 person i'm calling so 1877 01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:39,440 thanks man i've honored on both fronts 1878 01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:41,679 uh no we have a very supportive audience 1879 01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:43,679 here at somewhere in the skies so guys 1880 01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:46,239 go check out the series please over on 1881 01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:50,480 youtube and um uh yeah yeah it really 1882 01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:52,159 made me look in the mirror and asked 1883 01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:53,840 some pretty tough questions which i 1884 01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:55,840 think is all you can ask in today's 1885 01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:57,679 world and uh especially in these 1886 01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:59,760 different art forms so tim once again 1887 01:13:08,710 --> 01:13:01,280 thank you for joining me on somewhere in 1888 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:35,510 [Music] 1889 01:13:39,510 --> 01:13:37,430 somewhere in the skies is produced by 1890 01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:39,520 third kind productions in association